Are Casino "Coolers" real?

Kramer, rather than trying to discover anything new, is content to recycle familiar characters and story lines. Their job is to make sure you lose, depending upon the game. It had William H Macy and that was what he did. I get the impression that if a lot of money is involved those responsible for keeping the money do suddenly factor in the "paranormal". How best to visit the Grand Canyon in one day?

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But it is really hard to find any information on this. Anybody out there know more? I'll bet that when there is a lot of money involved, people will do anything for damage control. It must be true. Originally posted by Sinter Klaas Interesting I'd bet 2 to 1 against you..

There was a movie called The Cooler a few years ago. It had William H Macy and that was what he did. He was like a really, really unlucky person.

But I don't know if the movie was based on a true story or not. Haha, Indeed a cooler is a profitable person to have on your floor; but "bad vibes" is nowhere close to what they produce.

They quite literally will buy you out on any chance they get, using the casino's money of course. Their job is to make sure you lose, depending upon the game. Some games it is impossible for them to have any effect, but these games usually don't need to be cooled down. Maybe I could be employed as a "heater" and spread my good luck for all the gamblers for a small share of their winnings. If the casinos kicked up a fuss they'd have no right to complain I would probably end up in a dumpster though seeing as the industry is run by the mafia.

I make my own luck. Saw that movie btw Originally posted by smokingman we gamblers call them mocks Could you tell more about "mocks"? Never heard of them. Then again, there's this guy: Eddie Mush was a degenerate gambler. He was the world's biggest loser. He was "Mush" because everything he touched turned to mush. I need a winner.

At the track, the teller would give him his tickets ripped up. I had the Yankees. If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all. So when the pit bosses, who have been gathered aroung the table watching closely because of the action and the hot streak, suddenly stop the play to count that table, and then resume their close watch on that table instead of counting the other tables, well, you know it was bogus, just to interrupt.

Also, several times I have seen a player jump in to the game, play one or two hands and jump out again. The same guy has done this more than once over several months -- not a tourist, but a local. And after I saw him do this on two separate occasions, I followed him after he left the table on the third occasion. He walked into an "Employees Only" area from the hot table that he had cooled down. Employees are not allowed to play at their own casino, so I found this to be very interesting.

Burning an extra card or throwing in a new player for a hand or two, can change the card distribution. The sequence of cards in the shoe is fixed I think , but if you stir things up, you change the way the cards are being distributed. Whether that is good or bad for the hot player, only the Lord knows. Although computers and microchips are getting so sophisticated, that I am not sure if the sequence of upcoming cards really is unknown to the house.

If the house can read the next 50 cards in the shoe through microdot technology, they could project how the players are going to play those cards, and they will know if burning an extra card or having a house shill play one hand will result in a favorable change in their fortune. And the casino does monitor how players play.

It is part of their anti-card-counting precautions. They study how the whales play -- if the whale plays Basic Strategy, a predictable variation of Basic Strategy for example, many players play basic strategy except they don't hit a 12 against a Dealer's 2, or they don't double down on a soft 18, or If you vary your play strategy based on the card count, they will note that.

They also study how a whale varies the bets, looking for the spread and any correlation to the shoe's count. From the observations they are already doing, they simply build a profile of the players.

And we help them do this by checking in with our players' cards. Otherwise, they have to identify the player by facial recognition software -- which they probably do. Superstition runs deep, wide and fast on the crap tables. Pit critters seem to be a nastier than normal humans. You would think it was their money. Big roles seem to bring them out. Nasty remarks come with them. I think anyone who has spent a lot of time on the crap tables know what I mean.

I guess its their job to figure everyones a cheat. I asked this question myself awhile ago, I think that all who responded said that no, they don't exist. Underpar, it was at Mirage. The "cooler" went to the employee only corridor by that restaurant with all the wine bottles, I don't recall the name of it -- if you start at Revolution, walk past the Buffet, and go to that back corner to your left, past the restrooms.

The place with all the wine botles is on your right. The people who believe coolers don't exist also believe that no one ever gets "back roomed". Again, the point is not whether these tricks actually work to cool down a table. The point is that the casino staff believe it and do use them. All of your saved places can be found here in My Trips. Log in to get trip updates and message other travelers. Do "coolers" really exist in Vegas.

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